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Super Episode 53 (31 July 2016)
Topic Started: Jul 31 2016, 12:30 AM (9,423 Views)
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Zamasu and Gowasu are pretty cool. Still don't have a clear idea as to how Goku is using his power though. All we really know is that Zamasu is way stronger than the Kaioshin in Universe 7. Although, Beerus did say Goku used Super Saiyan in a fight against him, and Gowasu was surprised he's still alive. Whether he's referring to his first battle with him or second, I'm not entirely sure, however, Goku did only use Super Saiyan 2 against Beerus in his first fight, and he was using Super Saiyan 2 against Zamasu. The 2-Base Theory becoming increasingly more likely from the looks of things.
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Whis, Beerus, and Goku are flying through space in order to investigate Zamasu, someone in Universe 10 who Whis and Beerus believe has the same ki as Black. Goku asks who exactly this “Zamasu” guy is, and Whis explains that he used to be a Kaio in Universe 10, but due to his talent for battle, he is now being groomed as the next Kaioshin.

Over in the Kaioshin Realm of Universe 10, Zamasu is serving tea to Gowasu, the senior Kaioshin. Gowasu compliments him on the delicious tea: only those pure of heart can make such good tea, which proves Zamasu’s mind is at peace. He shall humbly continue to train his mind and body in order to silently watch over the doings of mortals.

But Zamasu has something on his mind: are mortals really worth protecting? He’s observed them endlessly repeat the same cycle: first flourishing, then destroying themselves in wars. Shouldn’t they interfere to put a stop to these foolish mistakes? Gowasu explains that the role of Kaios and Kaioshins is to create and observe; only the Gods of Destruction are allowed to directly interfere. Zamasu needs to understand his own role, and learn more about mortals.

Beerus and co. arrive and greet Gowasu: It’s been a long time! Gowasu introduces Zamasu as his pupil, but Zamasu is shocked to see Goku. A mortal! What’s he doing here?! Goku very politely introduces himself: he’s a Saiyan living on Planet 4,032-Green-877 in Universe 7…aka “Earth”. Zamasu is surprised to hear that Goku is a Saiyan, and wonders why he’s hanging out with a God of Destruction.

Goku compliments Zamasu as seeming pretty strong for a Kaio, but Zamasu angrily tells Goku not to touch him. Next Goku requests a match against Zamasu, but Beerus tosses him aside, saying that can wait. He and Whis state their business: on Earth in Universe 7 there’s somebody who wears a Time Ring, despite not being a Kaioshin, and he looks exactly like Goku. Would they happen to know anything about that? Gowasu says he knows nothing about it, so next Beerus and Whis ask to see their Time Rings, to confirm that they are all present and accounted for.

Zamasu escorts them to the “temple” (while Whis notes to Beerus that Zamasu didn’t seem to know about the Time Rings). At the temple, Gowasu opens a box which contains four green Time Rings and one silver one, confirming that they are all there. He’s curious why Beerus and Whis specifically came to Universe 10 asking about something that occurred in Universe 7, but they claim to be going around to every universe as part of their investigation.

Goku is still pestering Zamasu for a match, until finally Gowasu orders Zamasu to indulge him. This will be a part of Zamasu’s training, and help him understand mortals better…plus it’s a chance to see how much he can restrain himself against a mortal. He tells Zamasu to hold back, but Beerus interjects, saying Zamasu definitely shouldn’t…otherwise, he might die!

Back on Earth, Trunks is wondering to himself why a Universe 10 Kaio would have the same ki as Black, when Kuririn interrupts him: Gohan’s daughter sure is cute, right? Kuririn adds that he’s got a kid of his own, though she’s quite a handful. Trunks didn’t know Kuririn was married, and asks about his wife. As Kuririn hesitates, No.18 walks in and greets Trunks: “Long time no see!” Marron also runs out and hugs Kuririn, and 18 explains that they came to check on him since he hadn’t come home.

Trunks is shocked to realize 18 is Kuririn’s wife, while Kuririn says that it’s a long story. 18 pointedly notes that Trunks killed the version of her that existed in his alternate future, and demands he pay her consolation for damages…thankfully though, she’s just joking. Trunks goes off to check on Bulma, who’s still repairing the time machine with help from the Pilaf Gang. Things are going well, and they take a break. Outside, Pilaf and Shu observe Mai’s interactions with Trunks, and are determined to help make their love blossom. They try and get Mai to show off her gentle side, but she resents their interference.

In Universe 10, Goku becomes a Super Saiyan as he prepares to fight Zamasu, who notes that this transformation raises Goku’s ki up “several dozen fold”. Goku notes that Zamasu is the first god he’s fought since Beerus, which is an even bigger surprise: if he fought Beerus, how can he still be alive? The match starts, and as Zamasu fights, Goku can sense he has a ki similar to Black’s. For his part, Zamasu can’t believe that a mortal could be so strong.

While it seems a good match, in the end Goku is victorious. He again notes how Zamasu is really strong for a Kaio; he’s even stronger than Universe 7’s Kaioshin! “Let’s fight again sometime!” Having seen the Time Rings, Beerus and Whis are content to leave; they mustn’t forget about eating dessert. Heading home, they discuss how what they’ve seen of Zamasu supports their suspicions that he and Black are one and the same. Perhaps they should destroy him now? But Goku says Zamasu didn’t seem like such a bad guy. Besides, while similar, his ki isn’t exactly the same as Black’s.

Still, the way his hand went number when he hit Zamasu reminds Goku of when he fought Beerus. Beerus is angry at being lumped in with Zamasu, insisting that he’s on a far higher level. However, Goku thinks that Zamasu still has room to improve, and may someday grow into as scary a god as Beerus.

Back in Universe 10, Zamasu thanks Gowasu for allowing him to fight Goku. Gowasu thinks this helped Zamasu gain a deeper understanding of mortals, and relieved some of the distrust he feels towards them. Zamasu says he is embarrassed to realize how inexperienced he is, which Gowasu says is proof that he’s grown. Gowasu asks Zamasu for another cup of tea, which Zamasu obediently pours.

But Zamasu’s thoughts tells a different story: “I knew it, mortals are dangerous. Son Goku, I won’t forget this!”
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So this episode heavily implies (if not states) that it was Goku and Zamasu's interactions here and why Zamasu does the whole Black thing later on, and why Zamasu takes on Goku's appearance.

Problem is, Goku and Zamasu should have never met in Trunks' timeline. On top of the fact Goku was dead there, Goku only went to U10 because Black himself went back to the past to fight Goku, so without him going back to the past, there was no reason for Beerus and co to travel and meet him.

Granted, Zamasu was already wanting to destroy the humans before meeting Goku, but it doesn't explain why he took on Goku's appearance specifically. Then again, I think he stated that he'd never met Goku before when Black saw Goku, right? So I guess it isn't an error...it just needs to be explained why Black has Goku's appearance.
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Maybe Goku Black is an alternate timeline Zamasu. I mean, surely alternate timelines could exist in Universe 10 if they exist in Universe 7.
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Zamasu is a pretty cool villain. I like that we have an evil Kaioshin. And even more than that, we have a character who was basically a good, if not nice, guy but becomes evil because of something affecting him (in this cases the humans constantly starting wars and s***). All villains up until now have just always been evil, we've never really had a villain that had a reason for it.

I also liked seeing Trunks reaction to finding out Krillin was married to #18.

Goku was pretty insufferable though. His manchild levels were particularly high this week.

The fighting was horribly slow, and badly animated. It did seem like we got to see a bit of skill in there from Goku though.
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^Pretty much my thoughts. Also, I'm gettin' real tired of the Pilaf Gang.
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Things are starting to get interesting
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Damn that was short. I thought the Goku vs Zamasu fight would at least lead up until partway into the next episode.
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Added the episode summary to the OP.
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So 50x Super Saiyan still works eh?
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Well, Goku was a Super Saiyan 2, but yeah, 50 times should still work for Super Saiyan.
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Anyone else getting hung up on what Gowasu said about Goku and his relation to Beerus strength? Maybe there's been some training Goku is doing that nobody knows about. Because what Gowasu said and how Beerus reacted has got me wondering if Goku has caught up to Beerus, but Beerus somehow didn't notice until it was pointed out, or maybe Beerus won't admit it. It's interesting but there's not enough here to make my theory all that possible. We'll see.

I'm going to say Zamasu and Black are entirely different people. That's just my hunch. If they were the same people then Zamasu would have reacted differently to seeing Goku show up on his home world. Zamasu could just be playing dumb, maybe. And yeah, maybe he has the ability to change his appearance as well. But I just can't agree that Black and Zamasu are the same person. There's got to me something drawing them together though, aside for Ki and such.

Hahaha, for Dragon Ball...this is pretty interesting. It's actually got people scratching there heads, but in a good way for a change.

Pilaf and company could be around less. But I can't see them going away any time soon, especially with Mai becoming what appears to be a semi-major character now.

Anyway. I'm predicting that Black is going to show up on Zamasu's planet and they will fight. Zamasu will lose, Black will kill Gowasu or really hurt him, Zamasu will get angry and vow to get revenge and go after Black with a ring of his own. Furthermore. Goku and Vegeta, along with Trunks will also travel to the future and that's where they will discover Zamasu and Black fighting for the second time. Zamasu will lose again, Trunks will tend to him while Vegeta and Goku argue over who gets to take on Black but ultimately Black will get away again and the chase will continue on for a few more episodes before the final face off begins. I'm sensing a major character death but maybe that's just what I wish would happen, maybe future Trunks bites the bullet.

All of that likely sounds ridiculous but hey, oh well.
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Jul 31 2016, 02:07 PM
Anyone else getting hung up on what Gowasu said about Goku and his relation to Beerus strength? Maybe there's been some training Goku is doing that nobody knows about. Because what Gowasu said and how Beerus reacted has got me wondering if Goku has caught up to Beerus, but Beerus somehow didn't notice until it was pointed out, or maybe Beerus won't admit it. It's interesting but there's not enough here to make my theory all that possible. We'll see.
Not entirely sure what you're concerned about. Gowasu and Zamasu were wondering how Goku was still alive after battling Beerus, so Beerus is still clearly stronger than Goku.
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If Zamasu is Black, then he's a huge hypocrite for wanting to destroy humans for wars whilst also reveling in battles himself.

Perhaps Black is Zamasu after he goes through some kind of evil forbidden ritual that ends up possessing him, like a symbiote does. That would explain the similar ki and similar desires, just more twisted. Or he's a red herring.
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Zamasu is just a gifted fighter. I don't think he revels in battle.
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Man, Goku just keeps getting more and more obnoxious per episode.
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